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Ron Paul duped by CAIR collaborator

Posted by Richard on January 10, 2012

Ron Paul argues that the rise of radical Islamism and its terror war on America and the West are a consequence of our intervention in and occupation of Muslim lands, not their politico-religious beliefs. And he cites published research that supposedly proves it:

Though it is hard for many to believe, honest studies show that the real motivation behind the September 11 attacks and the vast majority of other instances of suicide terrorism is not that our enemies are bothered by our way of life.  Neither is it our religion, or our wealth.  Rather, it is primarily occupation.  If you were to imagine for a moment how you would feel if another country forcibly occupied the United States, had military bases and armed soldiers present in our hometowns, you might begin to understand why foreign occupation upsets people so much.  Robert Pape has extensively researched this issue and goes in depth in his book “Cutting the Fuse:  The Explosion of Global Suicide Terrorism and How to Stop It”.  In fact, of 2,200 incidents of suicide attacks he has studied worldwide since 1980, 95% were in response to foreign occupation.

But there are a couple of problems with Rep. Paul’s source, as Joel Richardson reveals:

It is essential to take note of the fact that the primary support for Paul’s belief concerning blowback comes from Robert Pape. The problem for Paul here is that by most accounts, Pape is an agenda-driven pseudo-scholar whose works and “studies” have been thoroughly debunked by several other scholars. I appeal to all supporters of Paul to read the following articles debunking Robert Pape’s, and thus Ron Paul’s, claims:

But not only are Pape’s claims based on manufactured data, he has also been caught red-handed conspiring with the Hamas-linked group Council on American-Islamic Relations.

How many Ron Paul supporters can honestly say that they feel comfortable knowing that this is the man Paul looks to as one of his primary guides concerning foreign policy?

Richardson goes on to argue that the radical Islamists’ desire to kill the Jews didn’t stem from the creation of Israel and its “occupation,” as Rep. Paul, the Palestinians, and the American left contend, but from the words of Muhammad himself more than 1300 years ago. That’s true, to a degree.

But modern Islamofascism arose out of Wahhabism in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s. Two of its chief architects were Hassan al-Banna, who founded the Muslim Brotherhood, and Grand Mufti Muhammad al-Husseini, the “Arab Fuehrer” who created Muslim Nazi divisions for Hitler and later helped found and set the ideological direction of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO).

Rep. Paul and those who agree with him need some serious educating regarding the politico-religious beliefs that he seems to know little or nothing about and dismisses as irrelevant. Here are some places to start:

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2 Responses to “Ron Paul duped by CAIR collaborator”

  1. doug anderson said

    Richard you ignorant slut! Hey from long ago. I accept your desire to defend Israel as your choice which we discussed over at least a couple of breakfasts. Your argument however follows the logical path akin to the old SNL routine. Ron Paul’s argument comes to a conclusion much as the US intelligence communities report on the matter did. But for the sake of brevity (as I know you can out type me)even if you don’t accept the 911 report, the good congressman’s argument stands on much firmer ground. WE ARE BROKE!! Even if we wanted to further denigrate American civil rights to pursue a “war” against an ideology our creditors wouldn’t allow it.
    And just to also gratuitously throw the Hitler bomb, I respect your right to vote for Rickie Santorum so we can pursue some fundamentalist apocalyptic rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. We will just have to accept the marching off to the camps of the fornicators, queers, and Muslims as a necessary part of the purification.
    Still love ya man.
    Doug A.

    • Richard said

      Ron Paul’s argument comes to a conclusion much as the US intelligence communities report on the matter did.

      No, it doesn’t. I assume you’re referring to the 9/11 Commission Report. Others can read it and decide for themselves, but I’ll toss out a brief excerpt (emphasis added):

      The enemy is not just “terrorism.” It is the threat posed specifically by Islamist terrorism, by Bin Ladin and others who draw on a long tradition of extreme intolerance within a minority strain of Islam that does not distinguish politics from religion, and distorts both.

      The enemy is not Islam, the great world faith, but a perversion of Islam. The enemy goes beyond al Qaeda to include the radical ideological movement, inspired in part by al Qaeda, that has spawned other terrorist groups and violence. Thus our strategy must match our means to two ends: dismantling the al Qaeda network and, in the long term, prevailing over the ideology that contributes to Islamist terrorism.

      We propose a strategy with three dimensions: (1) attack terrorists and their organizations, (2) prevent the continued growth of Islamist terrorism, and (3) protect against and prepare for terrorist attacks.

      A “long tradition,” not “a response to US occupation.” “Attack terrorists and their organizations,” not “if we leave them alone, they’ll leave us alone.”

      WE ARE BROKE!!

      We are also under attack. The Islamofascists are waging war against Western Civilization and are intent on world domination. Reasonable people can disagree about the best time, place, and method for countering the threat, but it’s foolish and irresponsible to pretend they aren’t (“if we leave them alone, they’ll leave us alone”) or to argue that we can’t afford to resist them.

      I respect your right to vote for Rickie Santorum so we can pursue some fundamentalist apocalyptic rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.

      You obviously missed my earlier post, Anybody but Santorum.

      We will just have to accept the marching off to the camps of the fornicators, queers, and Muslims as a necessary part of the purification.

      Your snark would sting more if it weren’t for one little thing: it’s the Islamofascists (who you and Ron think will gladly leave us alone if we let them) who want to “purify” the world by ridding it of the fornicators, queers, Jews, infidels, …

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